Friday, May 13, 2022

A chronological record of events with Ikeda Shika


May 1, 2021 /b20> I visited Ikeda Dental Ohori Clinic :(, and I took an X-ray)::

 


● Is the bone firm for the implant in the upper left 2? Is there an aesthetic problem such as a dent in the gums? Can it be a finish comparable to that of natural teeth? Question - There are enough bones about this, implants are fine, no aesthetic problems such as dents in the gums. It was said that the superstructure could be as beautiful as natural teeth.


● The former doctor told me that it was necessary to adjust the combination with a crown of 4,5 left and right (4 in total) in the future. - It is said that it is not necessary to make 4 or 5 crowns about this, and it is enough to raise the left a little. /b13>It is said that there is no worry because it examines it firmly in K7.


● The director's examination and explanation took about 10 minutes, and from the director's lady, director Ikeda is also a certified physician of the Fuku International Society of Oral Implantology and a physician certified by the ITI International ImplantOlogical Society, Fukuoka probably has the largest number of implant cases, is a well-named doctor who provides education and guidance to new dentists, and also hosts K7 training, To grasp the optimal temporomandibular joint position using , and to determine the position of a firm combination with a different approach from the previous doctor, then treat, so there was an explanation that good results can be obtained without cutting the left and right 4 and 5. Anyway, I was told that I would leave my problem of implants and combinations with peace of mind because I am a leading doctor in Kyushu. In addition, regarding the above contents explained by the director, I checked with the director again, and the implant is fine because there is a solid bone, and the treatment of the bite is performed firmly, so I was careful that night guards were not necessary after treatment.


 


 


May 21: Extraction of the root of the upper left 2 (side incisor)

 


June 22, /b20>Date: CT ( waiting for bone recovery for 1 month after tooth extraction)

● The director explained that there were enough bones, there was no problem with the implant, and there was no such thing as a dent. (Implant cost, half payment)



 


July 22, 2021: Upper left 2 implant implants.


● Pain continued ever after (implant circumference: screw implanted site pain, pain from the implanted site to Keane and sinuses, pain running behind the ear). Because I had continued to consult a physician for the treatment of the bite, every time I consulted a doctor, dr. Ikeda, two other doctors (I was consulted when the object came off), a dental hygienist, and the director lady again and again, it was a little examined, there was no problem, and it was repeated that the pain was drawn sooner or later. When I looked in the mirror by myself, the screw was transparent from the gums, and the upper part of the screw touched from the gums, and even if I told this situation, I could not see in detail.


 


October 2021: Izumi Dental (Dentistry in the neighborhood)


● I thought that it was abnormal that the pain of the implant and the screw showed through the gums, so I visited Azumi Dental Clinic in the neighborhood to see another doctor before installing the superstructure. I told them that there was pain, the screw was transparent, and touched from above, but both Izumi Dental (director (father) and deputy director (daughter) are fine, the bones are thin, so they may be transparent, and it was said that the screw is properly in the bone. I showed a selfie, but the shiny one (the top of the screw through the gums) is my "spit" b30>It was said that it was only visible shining. /b30>It was said that it was saliva yes when I was really saliva (female doctor). Director Izumi said, "I'm in a position to see the complaints of dentists in Fukuoka City, but I've never seen Dr. Ikeda's complaint, so I'm fine, I don't have to worry." /b110>Two doctors had told me that there was no problem with the taiko seal so far, so I had Dr. Ikeda continue treatment.

 


October 2021 : Ceramic superstructure mounting (finished twice botch, finally installed for the third time)


● At the time of counseling, when I told you that the finish of the front teeth is very worrisome for aesthetics, the director lady asked a very excellent technician named Mr. Tanaka of Kumamoto, so I was told that I could make very beautiful teeth comparable to natural teeth. However, the superstructure which had been able to be done was a thin rat color and ugly that the metal kneaded. Was it too ugly teeth, so did Mr. Tanaka really make it? When asked, the director replied, "There are many technicians at the technical office, so Mr. Tanaka may not always make your teeth, and we are in trouble." it.


The second tooth was a worse finish. When the one put on the tooth mold before the teacher came was seen with the director lady, the color was the same as the first color, but it became thin, and there was a big gap in the left and right teeth (It was recognized that the color changed and there was a gap, too), so it was redone and finally installed the third time.


 


From around August 2021 to February 2022 /b30>May 9: Replacement of temporary teeth with ceramics as a combination treatment

● Replace all the temporary teeth that ohori's teacher attached to with a zirconia ceramic crown. (Director Ikeda did not explain the treatment at all, and because it went to other patients' places as soon as the treatment was finished, it was understood that the explanation was only an exchange treatment after all exchanges ended because the explanation was only a general one from the director's lady.)


● At the time of subsequent examinations, I was told that the diagnosis was attached even if I did not use K7. When counseling, I was told that I would use K7 to determine the best position of the temporomandibular joint and treat it based on it, but I thought that I could not make an accurate decision unless I used it, so I asked for K7. /b17>The explanation during the K7 diagnosis was only once, "Yes, I was told to bite, and when I bit, the line graph goes up and pressure is applied", it was just the impression that it was honestly a child's trick. /b113>After the K7 decision, the teacher said, "Yes, it was exactly what I thought." IIt was said, and it did not explain, and it went to other patients. When the procedure is over, the director goes somewhere quickly, does not always get hair, and the director's lady is always talking with the director's hand, so Dr. Ikeda does not explain firmly while showing the image, all the director's lady explains, in between, the director's lady asks a short question to the director who is examining other patients, and the director answers it briefly: for example, while looking at other patients or moving to another place In short, my bones are enough, so there is no problem with the implant at all or to treat the bite, left and right 4. It was said that 5 was shaved off and the crown was not necessary, and the patient had taken the medical treatment style of trusting anyway by a very large teacher.

● At the time of the last exchange on February 9, the left back tooth part-time job was slightly raised, so severe pain came out in the upper left, 4,5,6,7 (especially 6,7) /b14>。


 


 


February 9: Ceramic replacement ends & Night Guard Mold.


● Director Ikeda doesn't always give me any explanations, so before coming to the hospital, I made a request to ask Dr. Ikeda to explain the pain. After the treatment, when I asked about pain in the left back tooth, jaw pain, and pain in the implant, I asked, "There is a lump in the muscles of the cheek, not the source pain, and the lump "triggers" /b17>Because it is a "trigger pain" caused by, it is not something that can be removed by the dentist, I was told to go to pain clinic and psychosomatic medicine if the pain continued.


*With Director Ikeda's treatment, various symptoms have come out, but like going to another hospital


 


February 14, 2022 Sun: When I wake up, I have severe tinnitus in my left ear.


The sound that go-go and the river flowed vigorously continued all day long. /b10> Since the last replacement date of the ceramic crown on February 9, the left back tooth has hurt (especially the tongue side), and the area around the left jaw has become painful, so I feel that there is some relationship because there is pain in the treatment implant of the bite.


 


February 16, 2022 Day: Receive Night Guard


I have been hearing terrible tinnitus for 3 days, and the implants are painful, so I requested that you check properly.


Visual examination: Check if there is pain by suppressing the implant implant with a cotton swab. There is a pain in the part of the thread. It is said that there is no inflammation because pus does not come out. /b11> I was asked three times if I would take CT, and all of them answered yes, please (it looked like I didn't want to take a CT).


 


CT imaging: I came back to the examination table and said , "I know the cause of the pain, the thread was sticking out of the bone" It was said. When I asked him to show me the image, he showed me the image at his counseling desk and was told the following two.


It is said that the screw does not fit in the bone as follows.


1. If I put the screw to the angle of my bone, it will get out of the teeth.


There was no such explanation in advance, the bones were sufficient, the surgery was easy, the implant experience was abundant, and it was explained that it was an authoritative level in the industry, so it was explained that it could be a clean tooth that was restored without needing to worry at all.


2. It was said that the problem did not come at all, it did not worry at all, and you may leave it though there was such a patient besides.


3. CT does not cause shadows in the surrounding alveolar bones and no inflammation


4. Tinnitus has nothing to do with this. (Tinnitus is a sudden deafness or a virus infection, It gets better naturally in a week to ten days.

 


February 17 (After going to bed wearing a night guard, day 1)

● The next morning, 90% of severe tinnitus had disappeared. But, the unpleasantness that the ear resounds, and a cold wind blows continues afterwards.


 


 


March 4: I had a medical examination for night guard adjustment. (The first time since the CT discovered the jump out of the bone on February 16: Dr. Ikeda sat slowly and explained for the first time since he came to the hospital in May 2021.)


● Since March 2, my left temporomandibular joint has been hurting. The director sharpened the night guard a little and adjusted it.


● At this time, I was told that there were enough bones about the implant coming out of the bone, so why is the screw popping out? I asked if I knew I was likely to jump out from the beginning.


Teacher's answer: I knew, I should have said, just because it happened is not a normal symptom, so it is not necessary for the patient to do so. It is not the one to dare to tell because the patient is worried, too. If there is a possibility that there is any disadvantage, I have to tell you, but it is not like that. The pain is quite likely to be happening with a bite problem. Since the upper left canine is facing inward, it is likely that this is doing bad. Let's do 5x5 while using night guard.


Pt Ikeda Dental's night guard covers the gabutto until the lift, and it feels very uncomfortable. The former doctor did not feel uncomfortable just by ticking at a depth of about 2 mm.


Dr thicker is easier to adjust.


There is no problem at all though there are other such patients. allI was told I didn't have to worry at all.


 


Discrepancies:


1. /b11> A CT image on February 16 said I found that the cause of my pain was jumping out of the bone (the first way I noticed it was jumping out of the bone), but in March /b19>On The 2nd, he was told he had known before the OP to jump out of the bone.

2. Director Ikeda's website clearly states that the implant should fit in the bone and otherwise cannot be implanted.


3. It is said that the poor bite is the cause of the implant pain, so it is not a problem with the implant itself. The treatment of the bite and the implant are carried out in parallel at the same time, and it pays more than 2.2 million yen. It is said that it blames the patient when one does not go well though one does not go well though both are treated, and it blames the patient when both do not go well, and it goes to the pain clinic and the psychosomatic medicine department.


 


March 18: Re-examination (2nd) for night guard adjustment, this day 2 b20>Dr. Ikeda talked slowly the second time.


● Asked again about the implant coming out of the bone.


PT: Did you know even before the OP that the screw would pop out of the bone?


DR: I knew.


PT: Dr magazine says implants will last roughly 15 years, but mine too /b15>In 15 years?


DR: Yes, it's.


 


I want my left jaw when I use pt night guard.


Dr Night Guard doesn't often cause a sore jaw.


PT I'm worried, so I want other DR's to see CT

I will write an introduction letter that the oral surgery of DR Kyushu University is good.


It's not like you're confirmed by the teacher who sees you. I think that it divides into the teacher who says that there is no problem with the teacher who is not good by the teacher who sees.


PT Ikeda DR HP If there are not enough bones in the implant, it is written that it can not be implanted, but is there a problem with popping out?


Dr location is a problem and the tip of the implant is fine separately. There is a problem if there is no bone near the gum. /b20>It's about half in, and the other one is partially out. Since the bacillus enters from the gum side, if the implant is exposed there, the problem is caused, or when the gums fall, the implant will come into view from the gums and it is a problem. Deep in the gums, bones.



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